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| oldhag58 |
Posted on September 04 2012 12:40
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A federal judge in Boston on Tuesday ordered the Massachusetts Department of Corrections to provide sex-change surgery to a transgender inmate serving life in prison for murder, ruling that failure to do so violated the prisoner's Eighth Amendment right to adequate treatment.
U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf ruled in the case of Michelle Kosilek, born as Robert Kosilek, who is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole for murdering his wife in 1990. Kosilek who identifies as female, has received hormone treatments and lives as a woman in an all-male prison.
Wolf found that surgery is the "only adequate treatment" for Kosilek's "serious medical need."
"The court finds that there is no less intrusive means to correct the prolonged violation of Kosilek's Eighth Amendment right to adequate medical care," Wolf wrote in his 126-page ruling.
According to The Associated Press, Wolf is the first federal judge to order prison officials to provide the surgery for a transgender inmate.
"This is a very big victory," Kosilek's attorney, Frances S. Cohen told NBC News. Although the ruling is not binding outside the state, she said: "I think it will be very influential beyond Massachusetts."
It was not known whether the Massachusetts Department of Corrections would appeal the ruling.
After Kosilek first sued the department 12 years ago, Wolf ruled that Kosilek was entitled to treatment for gender-identity disorder, but stopped short of ordering surgery. In 2002, Kosilek started a trial of hormones, with the intention of reevaluating the need for surgery. She sued again in 2006.
The department was supposed to reevaluate after one year, according to Cohen.
"In 2006, it became clear that they were not doing this in good faith," she said.
According to the judge's statement, Kosilek's anguish from gender identity disorder caused him to "attempt to castrate himself and to attempt twice to kill himself while incarcerated.”
Prison officials repeatedly cited security risks in the case, saying that allowing the surgery would make Kosilek a target for sexual assault.
Follow @NBCNewsUS But Wolf found that the department's security concerns are "either pretextual or can be dealt with by the DOC." He said it is up to prison officials to decide how and where to house Kosilek after the surgery.
"The DOC has the discretion to make good faith, reasonable decisions concerning security if the surgery genuinely creates or increases any risk to Kosilek or others," he wrote.
The Massachusetts ruling came just two weeks after the American Psychiatric Association published its updated position strongly endorsing access to treatment for transgender and gender variant individuals, noting that they "can benefit greatly from medical and surgical transition treatments."
"There is increased awareness that this kind of care is not particularly special," said Kristina Wertz, director of programs and policy at the nonprofit Transgender Law Center in San Francisco. "It's just medically necessary care. Our prison systems have an obligation to provide medically necessary health care."
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| Kerri_Rebecca |
Posted on September 05 2012 18:42
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I saw this on the news today. Are these people out of their muther luvin minds or what?!?! He lost the privilege to have a sex change when he murdered someone and got sentenced to prison for the rest of his life. It's part of the price that he has to pay for his crime. It's bad enough that tax payers have to foot the bill for what it cost to support an inmate but now this shit to! And just just because I spent a few years in the penitentiary doesn't mean I think it's right. It's just as bad that tax payers had to support me for my stupid mistakes also. |
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| Repp Eternal |
Posted on September 05 2012 20:13
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He/she needs it though. His/her doctor said so. If you had a medical NEED and grumpy assholes on the outside were all fuck her she threw away her rights the day she blah blah blah you'd be bummed the fuck out too. The prison system wastes way more money than this in a single second nationally.
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| 4gaBull |
Posted on September 06 2012 05:42
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All I have to say is 140 years ago you were hung for stealing a horse. Now you kill someone and get a free sex change op. These judges ruling on this tomfoolery are bat shit crazy and should be institutionalized.... |
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| Repp Eternal |
Posted on September 06 2012 05:48
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Free sex change op plus a thousand free rapings and beatings during your stay as a guest of the state. Sounds like a shitty trade off to me.
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| oldhag58 |
Posted on September 06 2012 13:43
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Waa, waa, waa, He is the one who killed his wife. What did he think was going to happen after that?
He started to dress as a woman once in prison. He's still got a dick and balls until some doc cuts all of it off.
Hopefully this isn't the end for this decision. |
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| Atz |
Posted on September 06 2012 14:14
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Wolf found that surgery is the "only adequate treatment" for Kosilek's "serious medical need."
I'm not saying that he/she doesn't have some serious medical needs. But "He's going nuts if you don't remove his nuts" is probably wrong approach. I'm not expert on this subject, but I thought that medical care in the USA ain't free for taxpayers, why should it be for convicted murderers? In Norway you pay max ca.300$ a year for medical care pr. year, but things like dental care and cosmetic surgery is not included.This whole thing reminds of a finnish guy who robbed a bank with a crossbow last year to afford an operation like this, he was declared insane, sent to the looneyhouse, and I promise, if he still want's that operation, he is gonna have to rob another bank and not get caught this time! |
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| Kerri_Rebecca |
Posted on September 06 2012 23:20
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Repp Eternal wrote:
He/she needs it though. His/her doctor said so. If you had a medical NEED and grumpy assholes on the outside were all fuck her she threw away her rights the day she blah blah blah you'd be bummed the fuck out too. The prison system wastes way more money than this in a single second nationally.
He doesn't "need" to have this operation, he wants to have it so he's jumped through all the liberal loopholes to ensure he gets it. I'm pretty sure the Government isn't passing out free sex changes (except to fags who live in Montana, lol) so if the guy wasn't in prison then he'd have to pay for it himself or tough shit but the fact that he's in prison means he's gonna get it on our dime. And no I wouldn't be "bummed the fuck out" because it would never cross my mind to even think I had the right to have this operation paid for by the Government. Besides, you just wanna say the opposite of what I say just to debate me Nem aka Rape Eternal aka Kingslayer aka Dust-in the wind and now Repp Eternal. You should look into seeing if there's an operation you could get paid for by the Government that'll cure you of your multiple personality disorder, lmao  |
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| Fedorfan |
Posted on September 08 2012 16:36
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Repp Eternal wrote:
Free sex change op plus a thousand free rapings and beatings during your stay as a guest of the state. Sounds like a shitty trade off to me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Only tears of sorrow can wash out the stain of shame; only pangs of suffering can blot out the fires of lust." -Lucian Staniak
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| Repp Eternal |
Posted on September 09 2012 19:07
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So a sex change is probably less work than a liver transplant. If you were in prison and needed a liver, wouldn't you still want it if the doc was behind you? Or would you say Ah fuck it, I'm in jail, I don't deserve to live?
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| oldhag58 |
Posted on September 09 2012 20:27
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RU Fucking out of your mind?
So a sex change is probably less work than a liver transplant. If you were in prison and needed a liver, wouldn't you still want it if the doc was behind you? Or would you say Ah fuck it, I'm in jail, I don't deserve to live?
U can live with your pee-pee and balls wo deadly harm! Hahahahaha...
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| 4gaBull |
Posted on September 09 2012 20:41
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Repp Eternal wrote:
So a sex change is probably less work than a liver transplant. If you were in prison and needed a liver, wouldn't you still want it if the doc was behind you? Or would you say Ah fuck it, I'm in jail, I don't deserve to live?
Funny you should mention this as Ottis Toole was left for dead due to his pickled liver from what I read... |
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| Repp Eternal |
Posted on September 09 2012 21:08
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oldhag58 wrote:
RU Fucking out of your mind?
So a sex change is probably less work than a liver transplant. If you were in prison and needed a liver, wouldn't you still want it if the doc was behind you? Or would you say Ah fuck it, I'm in jail, I don't deserve to live?
U can live with your pee-pee and balls wo deadly harm! Hahahahaha...
Not if you're being raped every day and getting new types of AIDS invented in your asshole. I'd call that deadly harm.
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